Tip: Preview Kore, Reaktor Effects in Winamp; Mac Solutions, Too

I’ve been using the Winamp-VST Bridge plug-in on PC to browse and preview large collections of sample source material. (Ed.: Winamp is the fantastic music player software for Windows, predating — and arguably, better than — iTunes. -PK) It’s great for testing out how things will sound when run through an effect without having to laboriously convert, slice and import files into a sample map.

Here it is running some audio, which I recorded on a Zoom H4 handheld recorder, into the granular delay we’ve been constructing here at Noisepages. If you’re like me and you have folder after folder of field recordings and vinyl samples, this is a super fast way to sift through them to find those golden moments where a combination of a sample and an effect become something new and exciting. Throw things against the wall and see what sticks, quickly and easily - primarily because of things like right clicking on a folder and choosing “enqueue/play in Winamp”, being able to skip around in a file quickly, navigate a playlist, save a playlist of favorites - all without having to worry about file formats. A “real” host is for later, once you have a goal or direction in mind. You can even browse shoutcast mp3 radio streams through your VST effects.

Drawbacks: there is some latency when using the standard DirectX drivers, so you don’t immediately hear the effects of your knob-twiddles. I’m trying out various ASIO Winamp output plugins for a stable low latency solution. Ed.: I use the ASIO drivers with Winamp quite happily. -PK Also, this VST bridge plugin doesn’t send a clock-start signal to Reaktor, so sequenced effects won’t work the way they will standalone or in a standard host. Quibbles aside, this is a great way for PC users to do some quick and dirty sound mangling with a wealth of sample sources.

Reaktor user Dave Pape suggests a program called Audiohijack for Mac users in this thread on the Reaktor forums - but isn’t there a way to do this with Soundflower, too? What do you think, Mac users? What’s the best way to do this on the Mac platform?

Mac Tools, Mac and Windows Automation

PK: I thought about this a bit, too, chatting with Peter D. Iced Audio’s fantastic AudioFinder sample management tool would be a likely candidate; it allows AU plug-in previewing. (It’s also got goodies like a plug-in manager.)

In addition to previewing, there’s also batch-processing. Audio editors like the free Wavosaur for Windows, or Peak (Mac), Audition (Windows), or SoundForge (Windows) all have capable batch facilities that can process your audio with effects. The coolest Mac solution I found is the Process with Audio Units Automator Action for the free Apple automation tool in Mac OS X Tiger and Leopard. None of these will preview, of course, but it’d be fun to make Kore setups and then mangle samples with them, automatically, for dropping into a sampler or performance set! -PK

Winamp and Batch Processing

After discussing batch processing audio through a VST chain with head honcho Peter K., I realized that Winamp can manage this too. You want to hear something sick? The Winamp VST bridge can load Kore 2. That means you can chain Kore effects and third party plugins in Winamp. Now the icing on the cake: in Winamp’s preferences, you can select “disk writer” as the output. Now Winamp will write .wav files in the directory of your choice instead of playing audio through the sound card. Load up the files you want to process in a playlist, hit play, and faster than realtime, you’ll have a directory of batch-processed files.

Winamp was originally programmed by Justin Frankel, the guy behind the Reaper DAW. Both apps are extensible and have their own DSP scripting languages, and both work well with Native Instruments plugins like Reaktor and Kore.

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sunship

re: Winamp and Batch Processing -
That is sick and evil too!! Nice pointer - thanks muchly!

August 20, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
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endekks

But Audion and SoundJam MP predated iTunes as well - and I found SJMP to be superior than iTunes. (I still miss its playlist functionality!)

And yes, I know Audio was what became iTunes. ^___^

August 21, 2008 @ 12:14 am
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Loopy C

From a Mac User: This ‘quick prototyping’ method is something I also use, in my case I use iTunes OR ‘Cog’ INTO Audio Hijack Pro which besides hosting VST and AU, allows recording the output to 24 bit (keeping in mind iTunes internally travels the 32 bit ‘core audio bus’ so plenty of ‘overhead’ to the ‘pipe’ itself to Hijack)

Because I also use iTunes Library Manager (from doug’s iTunes scripts) to keep separate ‘Libraries’ anyway, I can create specific ones for large folders of ‘test’s’. Other scripts useful are batching the ’start/stop’ times in iTunes (i.e. a whole playlist set to play one minute only of each file…instant needle drop!). Scripts allow an incredible amount of ‘non-destructive’ processing, check them out here:

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/index.php

Also, for non-destructive ‘trims’, check out ‘BPM’r’s intro/outro trimming (it writes it into the iTunes ‘option’ page parameters.

http://www.wildbits.com/bpmer/

I also use Iced Audio ‘Audio Finder’ and am slowly incorporating Monkey Tool’s ‘Library Manager Pro’ into this methodology so that the line between prototyping/final project is further blurred (and benefits from offline batch processing)

I use lots of other ‘tricks’ but I’ll save that for another day :)

August 21, 2008 @ 2:28 pm
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Peter Dines

Loopy C, is that “quick prototyping” part of how you come up with the tracks on your audio journal / blog? Which, by the way folks, are pretty intriguing sounding.

August 22, 2008 @ 11:11 pm
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Loopy C

Hey Peter,

I would say there is a fair portion up there done that way yes (especially given the blog is dedicated mostly to ‘prototyping). No particular category, (i.e. some of the abstract rhythm tracks were made in an ‘iTunes drum machine’ I concocted).

Probably the earliest example is the ‘Oscillators Made Of Polaroids’ set which was iTunes feeding a variety of plug-ins including GRM Tools and Izotope’s freebie ‘Vinyl’ into Audio Hijack Pro, each ‘broken loop’ from those live sessions were then ‘morphed into the longer compound track via Traktor (and again in realtime via Audio Hijack Pro):

http://loopyc.com/?p=55

August 23, 2008 @ 9:38 am
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Loopy C

Two others perhaps of interest were experiments of running various sources through software emulations of various cel phone codec’s (again via iTunes’ into AHP with ‘Speakerphone’ as ‘codec’ insert.

http://loopyc.com/?p=146

http://loopyc.com/?p=140

August 23, 2008 @ 10:46 am
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Loopy C

Gee, all that and I forget to say thanks for the link and mention of my blog! Thanks :)

August 23, 2008 @ 11:00 am
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